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Possible engine flameout. MAYDAY. American Airbus A321 immediately returns to Orlando. Real ATC
THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
16-MAY-2024. An American Airlines Airbus A321 (A321), registration N162UW, performing flight AAL2095 / AA2095 from Orlando International Airport, FL (USA) to Philadelphia International Airport, PA (USA) shortly after takeoff declared MAYDAY, stopped climb at 2000 feet and requested return to the airport of departure. Later the flight crew reported possible engine flameout on takeoff as a reason of emergency. As a result, the airplane landed safely on runway 36 right at Orlando International Airport.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Description of situation
00:17 American 2095 is climbing out of Orlando. MAYDAY
01:12 The pilots contact Orlando Approach. They are returning the airport
03:50 The flight crew report the reason of MAYDAY. Possible engine flameout
05:54 The pilot contacts Tower controller
06:19 The airplane lands at Orlando Airport. Communications on the ground
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THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
SOURCES OF MATERIAL, LICENSES AND PERMISSIONS:
Source of communications - www.liveatc.net/ (I have a permission (Letter) for commercial use of radio communications from LiveATC.net).
Map, aerial pictures (License (ODbL) ©OpenStreetMap -www.openstreetmap.org/copyright/en.) Permission for commercial use, royalty-free use.
Radar screen (In new versions of videos) - Made by author.
Text version of communication - Made by Author.
Video editing - Made by author.
HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.
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Fumes in the cockpit. Pilots don oxygen masks. Delta Airbus A220 returns to Minneapolis. Real ATC
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Nose gear red indication. Low pass. American Boeing 737 has problems at Austin. Real ATC
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Very loud, annoying squeal in the cockpit. Alaska Boeing 737 returns to San Francisco. Real ATC

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @derkiealfonso2393
    @derkiealfonso2393 7 годин тому

    ATC: Are you declaring an emergency? Pilot: are you deaf?

  • @charlesmoore1762
    @charlesmoore1762 14 годин тому

    Cleared for 35R and later cleared for 36R -- strange? No, actually it is not. I checked and MCO has both 35 L & R and 36 L & R. Original instruction was for 35R which is 9,000 ft but later Approach Control PROPERLY switched the instruction to 36 R which is 12,000 ft and 200 ft wide. Possible single engine might not have reverse thrust. Good call by ATC to put the Emergency A/C on the longest runway. Of course it confused ME initially because I didn't know Orlando had all those N-S runways. The pilots did know that, so they didn't question it.

    • @michaelbrower3068
      @michaelbrower3068 12 годин тому

      It was the pilot who requested the switch to 36R. See 3:16.

  • @baysideharpy8350
    @baysideharpy8350 16 годин тому

    This confirms my long held view that many Americans simply cannot understand foreign accents.

  • @papaguy2001
    @papaguy2001 17 годин тому

    I'm not sure if this will be answered and I don't know if I'll get an alert if anyone does. I've been following this you tube channel and other, similar ATC channels for a long time. But why are radio communications so bad? This is an emergency situation and I could barely hear any of the tower instructions as they were garbled mostly. This is an emergency aircraft. Are there any plans to enhance communications so it doesn't sound like someone trying to handle a short range radio? We must be able to do better. Thanks again You can see ATC for sharing all of these situations with us!

    • @bigskyvideo
      @bigskyvideo 17 годин тому

      You are listening to a recording from someone's scanner. The quality of the reception is going to be dependent on how far away they are from the source. The conversation between the tower and the plane will have been perfectly clear to them just not to the scanner on the ground.

    • @papaguy2001
      @papaguy2001 14 годин тому

      @@bigskyvideo thanks so much for that explanation. I wasn't aware that the interference wasn't on the actual transmission. That gives me hope that our pilots aren't trying to navigate MAYDAY situations while listening to a transmission that sounds like a tin can on a string telephone!

  • @jonbaldwin
    @jonbaldwin 18 годин тому

    U.S. pilots seem to be getting better at using MAYDAY and PAN-PAN recently. Has there been a rule change or new guidance issued or am I imagining it?

    • @clqudy4750
      @clqudy4750 17 годин тому

      It's due to all the dissenting comments on You can see ATC. We did it!

    • @abcdfgh4321
      @abcdfgh4321 17 годин тому

      I wonder if it's because they keep getting roasted in the comments of these videos

    • @jjhjay8527
      @jjhjay8527 Годину тому

      😂😂😂

  • @paulsinclair3401
    @paulsinclair3401 21 годину тому

    Wow.... an aircraft in the USA utilising international distress procedures perfectly, right down to the repeat of the 'Maydayx3' every time he changed frequencies! See how smoothly everything goes when the correct distress procedures are utilised? Everybody knows where they stand and what to expect without ATC having to keep asking if they're going to declare an emergency. No time is wasted..... Well done that pilot!

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A 20 годин тому

      The scope definitely told the controllers it was an emergency

    • @captaincarl2079
      @captaincarl2079 19 годин тому

      zero need for that magical word, "declaring an emergency" and 7700 works perfectly fine

    • @malahammer
      @malahammer 18 годин тому

      He wanted to get straight back to the field (while trouble shooting)....hence the MAYDAY

    • @intorainbowzOG
      @intorainbowzOG Годину тому

      No asking about infants. Stick to souls and fuel

  • @richardotto3937
    @richardotto3937 21 годину тому

    Sounds like the crew member is young and a bit scared

    • @pgbrandon
      @pgbrandon 21 годину тому

      I got that feeling as well. He hasn’t done it a thousand times yet.

    • @TonyTheYouTuba
      @TonyTheYouTuba 20 годин тому

      Exceptional radio work, highlighting the Mayday status after every single frequency change was exemplary to avoid assuming that each controller was aware. It could be if he is earlier in his career that this is something they are really drilling on the training now, that older pilots might have forgotten (or even not been trained that way).

    • @mrkhan2983
      @mrkhan2983 20 годин тому

      he is not .. and by typing on keyboard its very easy to judge .. this is the worst emergency one can have if you are a Pilot .. atleast appreciate him

    • @malahammer
      @malahammer 18 годин тому

      He did not appear nervous at all. He was calm, collected and completely professional.

    • @Cedric_Harris
      @Cedric_Harris 14 годин тому

      ​@@malahammerHe did a great job, but he was clearly scared. His voice was cracking.

  • @boatingcharlie1
    @boatingcharlie1 21 годину тому

    You will never see this on the evening news but if it was a Boeing plane it would be blasted all over the news. This happens every week a Boeing makes the news and an Airbus get a pass when declaring an emergency.

  • @dldave1978
    @dldave1978 21 годину тому

    This is brutal to listen to. I had to shut it off. There are so many controllers out there that do a great job. We were all new at something once, but geez.

  • @rubenvillanueva8635
    @rubenvillanueva8635 22 години тому

    Another Airbus with engine problems!, what is going on?

    • @blockbertus
      @blockbertus 22 години тому

      Maintenance. Edit: In this case it appears to be caused by a bird strike. So stop your fear mongering.

    • @smeezekitty
      @smeezekitty 21 годину тому

      Neither Airbus nor Boeing make the engines. You can't blame them for engine problems

    • @kevinstraus1478
      @kevinstraus1478 19 годин тому

      @@blockbertusdoesn’t want fear mongering but tries to blame maintenance

    • @julienjjj
      @julienjjj 18 годин тому

      Engine got a birdstrike when running at or near full power, then carried on for at least long enough to land. Sure feels like it's done it's job properly.

    • @FloorItDuh
      @FloorItDuh 17 годин тому

      ​@@blockbertus you aren't qualified to make that determination.

  • @jakehurst10
    @jakehurst10 23 години тому

    This was handled very professionally. ATC didn’t hound the crew with questions as they knew they were busy troubleshooting. Kudos to everyone involved!

    • @YouCanSeeATC
      @YouCanSeeATC 23 години тому

      👍👍👍

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 22 години тому

      That is a favorite comment here on YT. Quite upsetting isn't it Jake.

    • @andrewwelchphotographer
      @andrewwelchphotographer 16 годин тому

      Except on the first mayday, “talk to that guy not me” lol

    • @MarkMcLT
      @MarkMcLT 14 годин тому

      They also failed to copy the nature of the emergency and forced the crew to repeat.

  • @calebcohen1355
    @calebcohen1355 23 години тому

    Every single time I listen to these, the ATC has the pilots repeat both souls/fuel multiple times. Either it's important enough to listen and note or just stop asking.

  • @rajaampattravel
    @rajaampattravel 23 години тому

    Delta Airbus A321

  • @benbunch4159
    @benbunch4159 День тому

    Boeing no! Mom I'm right here. Sorry, force of habit. Airbus no!

  • @chrisbuller9938
    @chrisbuller9938 День тому

    smoke in the cockpit should elicit far more helpful and knowledgable interactions with atc than this crew received. these controllers need remedial training - for careers as far away from aviation as practical. appalling.

  • @georgee6303
    @georgee6303 День тому

    Jesus Christ ATL departure controller for f*cks sake!

  • @blancolirio
    @blancolirio День тому

    Thanks for posting. Good example for new ATC controllers of the need to do a better job in handling emergency aircraft. Listen up and write it down!

    • @YouCanSeeATC
      @YouCanSeeATC День тому

      Thank you. Absolutely agree.

    • @bobteter4300
      @bobteter4300 19 годин тому

      It's always good to have an adult in the discussion!

  • @derwolfistda
    @derwolfistda День тому

    ?? Ground communication is a little confusing ! " LEFT on E, hold short RWY 4L . " Left on E will lead him to A, not to RWY 4L. ?!?!

  • @TobinTwinsHockey
    @TobinTwinsHockey День тому

    “Standby for other information” means “I can’t remember what I’m supposed to ask” ……ATC gets worse every day

  • @eddieflxible379
    @eddieflxible379 День тому

    No Scarebus for me

  • @kjay5056
    @kjay5056 День тому

    Good grief. Ex controller here and it was painful to listen to this. Not listening to any of the info pilots are giving him ref the emergency, etc and the final vector guy is telling him ILS. These pilots are busy enough in the cockpit without ATC increasing their workload. Just embarrassing!!

  • @Ndub1036
    @Ndub1036 День тому

    Why does the fire department need to know people versus infants? Look for bodies guys cmon

  • @tonycrispino4493
    @tonycrispino4493 День тому

    Um that isn't a very communicative pilot. They tail struck on takeoff. She says she knew it. And requested an emergency landing with trucks rolling. All of this was pried out by ATC questions. Never a Pan Pan or mayday or an explanation on plan deviation?

  • @gopack42
    @gopack42 День тому

    Well, to be fair, most kids ARE hazmat, so there's that

  • @PikalaxALT
    @PikalaxALT День тому

    with all the recent incidents of controllers creating dangerous situations, it's reassuring to hear a case of everyone coordinating an emergency situation while maintaining safe operating procedures.

  • @gpslightlock1422
    @gpslightlock1422 День тому

    Love that firetruck animation!

  • @hj8272
    @hj8272 День тому

    Bermuda is a nice place for vacation. But, please have mercy, incompetence of those people on the ground is staggering.

  • @georgehines2626
    @georgehines2626 День тому

    If I have smoke, fire and I’m on a mask, I’m not gonna take vectors all over fucking Atlanta to get back on the ground. That fucking crew should’ve been quicker to get on the ground. Lots of incompetence on both sides.

  • @vw72713
    @vw72713 День тому

    Report souls on board, infants, goldfish, number of vegetarians, US passport holders, fuel in pounds, dangerous goods 🤡

  • @waynesummey5051
    @waynesummey5051 День тому

    Multiple sites find same incidences. You are hearing atc approach real time transmission..How is this rip off? Don't like it; don't click it.

  • @oldhouseredux7733
    @oldhouseredux7733 День тому

    The controller freakin sucked.

  • @johnwright4406
    @johnwright4406 День тому

    Infants move you full emergency status

  • @TheAbyrr
    @TheAbyrr День тому

    I think that controller should ask for souls and fuel 3x more again.

    • @vbscript2
      @vbscript2 День тому

      Well, maybe if they did, they would have gotten the order of magnitude right! Tower reported it to ARFF off by a factor of ten...

  • @leeaf7
    @leeaf7 День тому

    All questions asked by the ATC seems valid to me as an airline pilot. Fuel in time is almost standard for any emergency (Regardless of faa or icao) and hazmat/infant pax question is valid for fire fighting purpose. Notice they are relaying all information to the fire chief once the aircraft is on final. May have not been the most standard way of radio communication but hard to say that they are clogging the frequency with unnecessary questions.

    • @TheGospelQuartetParadise
      @TheGospelQuartetParadise День тому

      As a pilot do you often encounter an ATC that KEEPS asking the same questions over and over? If you're dealing with an emergency I'm sure you're following the advice I always hear blancolirio say.... aviate.. navigate... communicate. He asked for vectors... ATC should have been all over that... If the pilots are on oxygen why would ATC say CLIMB to 11,000 feet after the pilot said they needed to get on the ground as soon as possible? Not to have the emergency aircraft climb for possible other traffic. Clear the other traffic out of the way and get that plane on the ground. And THEN to tell the pilot ATC will determine what they need, not we'll roll the equipment. If you're a pilot how would you grade this at the busiest airport in the world?

    • @leeaf7
      @leeaf7 День тому

      @@TheGospelQuartetParadise in a perfect world with perfect comm equipment and undivided attention, may not be the best to ask questions again. However you have to consider human factors in this. ATCs are human just like us pilots. They may not sound like startled but they are also going through some high stress with inevitable tunnel vision onset as they try to guide the plane in. We can all monday quarterback on their performance but at the end everyone was safe. I commend them for their professionalism.

    • @leeaf7
      @leeaf7 День тому

      @@TheGospelQuartetParadise And for the reason of climb, 11k is the standard altitude for ATL arrivals (I am based there). The pilot notified the ATC that they are trouble shooting, and the ATC suggested altitude working best for all parties. If the pilot thought that altitude was inadequate for the emergency they were in, they would have declined. More you know about the local area, more you understand why.

    • @TheGospelQuartetParadise
      @TheGospelQuartetParadise День тому

      @@leeaf7 But, the ATC made no inquiry as to how long the crew had been on oxygen, and whether they had adequate oxygen to climb. I am with the planespotting crew that caught the wheel drop off that United flight at SFO. We hear ATC every day and when there is an emergency ATC always asks if the pilots need a holding area to troubleshoot, but they never say climb. They say would you LIKE to remain at your current altitude? And since SFO and LAX are on the water the question invariably is would you like to go offshore to troubleshoot or to dump fuel. But, I'm not pilot. Just know a few 777 and A380 pilots.

    • @leeaf7
      @leeaf7 День тому

      @@TheGospelQuartetParadise Pilots were fully aware of their capability to decline any clearance which would further hinder with the safety of flight. Controllers did their job (arguably not in the perfect way) to keep the aircraft safe while gathering all necessary information. Again, we can do this all day long making circles but at the end everyone walked off safely and the system worked well. When you fly international dealing with other countries' ATC, you will quickly realize that the US controllers, despite everyone complaining about their non-standard way of conducting business, are the best in the world in terms of their safety, efficiency and top-notch SA.

  • @joemcfugal
    @joemcfugal День тому

    Tower got the fuel weight wrong when talking to the fire chief. Off by about 27k lbs. No way you're getting from ATL to Denver on just 3k lb

    • @vbscript2
      @vbscript2 День тому

      Yeah... they missed a zero in there. It definitely helps if you can get the order of magnitude right. If you're trying to fly from ATL to Denver on 3k lb of fuel, you better be in something a lot smaller than an A321...

  • @wallywally8282
    @wallywally8282 День тому

    I find one of the biggest hazards is ATC itself!

  • @Jetstream015
    @Jetstream015 День тому

    As a both FAA and EASA certified pilot i really do not understand why: 1) FAA ATC (and many ,not all, US pilots for that matter) does/do not use the internationally agreed terminology; It;s safer, always anywhere. 2) Support the flightcrew as much as possible - a potential fire in the cockpit is very stressful. No non essental questions 3) In a potential fire situation the plane needs to get on the ground asap, like asap. Of course there might be some conflicting traffic - but this plane has pririority over anyone else 4) one departure in front of you?? WTF? That runway should be free and ready to go - all yours 5) It could be me - but I sure get the impression ATC quality is way down from what I was used to in the States 6) Soon something will go terribly wrong on the ATC front in the US. Only a matter of time and at some point your out of luck. Of course same applies anywhere else. 7) Hope the pilots use the authority they have in these situations. They make the final descicion - not ATC - only when they really must do that of course... 8) A friend of me put his plane (a jet) down on the taxiway of a commercial airfield in Europe, even when ATC/Tower told him not to land and did not provide him with a clearance 9) Had a fuel leak and later it was determined that he was indeed flying on fumes - no action taken. ATC reprimanded and retrained because he told them he needed to land now. He was right. Anyway, crew was doing a good job, ATC absolutely amateurs - too bad - its ATL !

  • @idunnoanymore2870
    @idunnoanymore2870 День тому

    There’s a huge difference between what pilots stated 38000LB and tower 3800LB fuel!

  • @dayeightfloyd5495
    @dayeightfloyd5495 День тому

    Fumb duck controller. As usual.

  • @idunnoanymore2870
    @idunnoanymore2870 День тому

    Departure ATC asking to repeat answers too many times!

  • @tonycrispino4493
    @tonycrispino4493 День тому

    Any Hazmat or infants? Maybe just ask "are there any dirty diapers on board?"

  • @graemecox6502
    @graemecox6502 День тому

    Crew gets an A , ATC gets an F. It’s getting dangerous out here

  • @costaricanaturephotography3027

    So pilot says he wants to get on the ground ASAP, is on oxygen then ATC tells him to CLIMB to 11K feet??? Then he needs to get repeats on every single bit of emergency info?? Good grief...

    • @barryfinney8032
      @barryfinney8032 День тому

      I thought the same thing! They teach us You can have as little as 7 min of controllable flight when on fire. I would be ready to tell them I am bringing myself in, just get everybody out of my way.

    • @bobteter4300
      @bobteter4300 День тому

      @@barryfinney8032 Yep

    • @cathiefieser7296
      @cathiefieser7296 День тому

      Climbing out of a busy corridor (like Atlanta) they need to get other traffic out of the way. Also, terrain is a factor at that field.

    • @Ndub1036
      @Ndub1036 День тому

      @@cathiefieser7296they can make other airplanes move and let this one stop the climb. And terrain is not a factor at 10k in Atlanta. Look at a topo map

    • @OfficialSamuelC
      @OfficialSamuelC День тому

      @@cathiefieser7296It’s ATCs job to get everyone out of the way. Delta could’ve refused all commands by ATC and dictated what they want and it would be ATCs job to make it work.

  • @TheGospelQuartetParadise
    @TheGospelQuartetParadise День тому

    I know Hartsfield is the busies airport in the world but was this controller on the first day at work. The pilot was told to climb to 11000 ft AFTER he said they needed to get on the ground quickly. Then he was obsessed with fuel on board, souls on board, and infants. I always thought infants were included in the SOULS on board. And, when the pilot asked if emergency equipment would be ready, the controller said We'll determine what you need. The pilot has already said there's smoke and fumes in the cockpit. My daddy always said where there's smoke there's fire. So ATC didn't have ARFF standing by to meet and follow that airliner down the runway until it was determined that it was safe to either taxi to the gate or evacuate the craft because there was visible smoke coming from it? Tower we have a number for you to call.

    • @DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC
      @DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC День тому

      ARFF was there, tower notified the Fire Chief. Yes, she got the fuel wrong.

    • @TheGospelQuartetParadise
      @TheGospelQuartetParadise День тому

      @@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC so when have you heard an ATC keep asking if there were infants aboard. And when the ATC said we will determine what you need, I would have said, meet me behind the maintenance hangar and I'll show you what I determined you need.

    • @DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC
      @DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC День тому

      @@TheGospelQuartetParadise Yes, First Approach controller asked twice about passengers, and fuel, plus asked specifically about infants. Verification for ARFF possibly? The second was the tower controller. I don't get what she meant by that, ARFF was already out there. That was a very strange statement. Maybe the tower controller is the Delta pilots wife?

    • @TheGospelQuartetParadise
      @TheGospelQuartetParadise День тому

      @@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC Did you also hear the controller say "We'll determine what you need?" When the pilot asked if the emergency services would be there to meet the plane.

    • @DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC
      @DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC День тому

      @@TheGospelQuartetParadise At 5:25, Tower makes that statement.

  • @rachaellawrence8635
    @rachaellawrence8635 День тому

    Why are they having them climb to 11 when the pilots have masks on?

    • @malahammer
      @malahammer День тому

      Maybe there's minimum levels even levels go the other way?

  • @maxb4074
    @maxb4074 День тому

    How much fuel was that?

  • @biffhenderson1144
    @biffhenderson1144 День тому

    Wow, these USA controllers need to learn to listen. They may not have the opportunity to say again in an emergency.

  • @dirkjanriezebos2240
    @dirkjanriezebos2240 День тому

    In an emergency in particular the controller should not be asking for clearly communicated information to be repeated. Really shabby performance.

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo День тому

      At last he didn't ask whether he should order pizza for them to be ready if they landed! So could have been worse!

  • @barryo5158
    @barryo5158 День тому

    Not good!

  • @paulg2132
    @paulg2132 День тому

    Geez...can't ATC ever write anything down?! They didn't convey the fuel load properly.